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		<title>By: Madas</title>
		<link>http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2006/02/21/invitations-sent-out-a-bit-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-220708</link>
		<dc:creator>Madas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh... this is a complex issue... the thing is, sometimes or in many many cases people marry for the wrong reasons. Girls get married to get away from the tyranny of their fathers; they also marry into money and social status. Guys marry to beauty and social status. Parents condone this for a set of complicated reasons. 

There are certain stereotypes to what a successful couple looks like. The man has to be older by 2-6 years (God forbid he is younger). He has to be rich and educated and works in a stable job that pays a monthly salary (preferably high). Or he works in his father’s business.  He has to be from the same social background (God forbid he comes from a lesser social status). Girl has to be pretty, virginal in public, but a sex master in private. She has to be polite (God forbid he is strong) she definitely has to be younger.  

Which , lets say is fine... the thing is people don’t look for what really matters, they have chemistry, they understand each other... the belief is that they will learn how to love and understand  each other... and if they do from the beginning then wonderful!  So no, parents don’t do that... parents think in economics terms, they also think in social alliances terms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh&#8230; this is a complex issue&#8230; the thing is, sometimes or in many many cases people marry for the wrong reasons. Girls get married to get away from the tyranny of their fathers; they also marry into money and social status. Guys marry to beauty and social status. Parents condone this for a set of complicated reasons. </p>
<p>There are certain stereotypes to what a successful couple looks like. The man has to be older by 2-6 years (God forbid he is younger). He has to be rich and educated and works in a stable job that pays a monthly salary (preferably high). Or he works in his father’s business.  He has to be from the same social background (God forbid he comes from a lesser social status). Girl has to be pretty, virginal in public, but a sex master in private. She has to be polite (God forbid he is strong) she definitely has to be younger.  </p>
<p>Which , lets say is fine&#8230; the thing is people don’t look for what really matters, they have chemistry, they understand each other&#8230; the belief is that they will learn how to love and understand  each other&#8230; and if they do from the beginning then wonderful!  So no, parents don’t do that&#8230; parents think in economics terms, they also think in social alliances terms</p>
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		<title>By: Marj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Catholics are known for this (there is a comedy movie about it with Robin Williams) and their are also pre-marriage kits that Christian bookstores will sell for Christian couples who are contemplating going down the marriage route. I always thought that on the side of the world you guys are on that the parents helped solved those questions before marriage or when in picking a mate for their kid- it made sense to me considering parents know what a real marriage makes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Catholics are known for this (there is a comedy movie about it with Robin Williams) and their are also pre-marriage kits that Christian bookstores will sell for Christian couples who are contemplating going down the marriage route. I always thought that on the side of the world you guys are on that the parents helped solved those questions before marriage or when in picking a mate for their kid- it made sense to me considering parents know what a real marriage makes.</p>
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		<title>By: Levant</title>
		<link>http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2006/02/21/invitations-sent-out-a-bit-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Levant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the side of your post ,I picked Dido ,the hunter not bad ,What do you think is it the lyrics or the Dido the singers that made all the way to our homes ?


 
Hunter:
With one light on in one room, I know you&#039;re up when I go home
With one small step upon the stair, I know your look when I get there
If you were a king up there on your throne, would you be wise enough to let me go
For this queen you think you own
Wants to be a hunter again, wants to see the world alone again
To take a chance on life again, so let me go
The unread book and painful look, that is Devin words The unread book and painful look !!!
= = = = = = = = =
But my favorite is :
Life For Rent 
I haven&#039;t ever really found a place that I call home
I never stick around quite long enough to make it
I apologise that once again I&#039;m not in love
but it&#039;s not as if I mind that your heart ain&#039;t exactly breaking
it&#039;s just a thought, only a thought

but if my life is for rent and I don&#039;t learn to buy
well I deserve nothing more than I get
cos nothing I have is truly mine.

I&quot;ve always thought that I would love to live by the sea to travel the world alone and live more simply.
= = = = = = =


I my self lived this way  ,in an imposed Diaspora and can relate to the song .For me, it&#039;s about the little things, the details!!! Always has been, always will be so why should I care . As in life, should I  concentrate on that, leaving the big stuff to just take care of itself.&quot; Such is the secret to the songwriting lyrics ,it says what I cant say!!!
How about you did you chose Dido&#039;s Hunter ,or you just have it ?No-one expected the north London girl to be a multi-platinum, world-conquering success, least of all Dido herself if you only see her you will take her for a cousin or the gal next door .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the side of your post ,I picked Dido ,the hunter not bad ,What do you think is it the lyrics or the Dido the singers that made all the way to our homes ?</p>
<p>Hunter:<br />
With one light on in one room, I know you&#8217;re up when I go home<br />
With one small step upon the stair, I know your look when I get there<br />
If you were a king up there on your throne, would you be wise enough to let me go<br />
For this queen you think you own<br />
Wants to be a hunter again, wants to see the world alone again<br />
To take a chance on life again, so let me go<br />
The unread book and painful look, that is Devin words The unread book and painful look !!!<br />
= = = = = = = = =<br />
But my favorite is :<br />
Life For Rent<br />
I haven&#8217;t ever really found a place that I call home<br />
I never stick around quite long enough to make it<br />
I apologise that once again I&#8217;m not in love<br />
but it&#8217;s not as if I mind that your heart ain&#8217;t exactly breaking<br />
it&#8217;s just a thought, only a thought</p>
<p>but if my life is for rent and I don&#8217;t learn to buy<br />
well I deserve nothing more than I get<br />
cos nothing I have is truly mine.</p>
<p>I&#8221;ve always thought that I would love to live by the sea to travel the world alone and live more simply.<br />
= = = = = = =</p>
<p>I my self lived this way  ,in an imposed Diaspora and can relate to the song .For me, it&#8217;s about the little things, the details!!! Always has been, always will be so why should I care . As in life, should I  concentrate on that, leaving the big stuff to just take care of itself.&#8221; Such is the secret to the songwriting lyrics ,it says what I cant say!!!<br />
How about you did you chose Dido&#8217;s Hunter ,or you just have it ?No-one expected the north London girl to be a multi-platinum, world-conquering success, least of all Dido herself if you only see her you will take her for a cousin or the gal next door .</p>
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		<title>By: Madas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rasha- I know you can&#039;t prepare for everything in the future, actually you can try but you never know what happens.  However, it is really important to have a general agreement on things with your fiance, and this is the poin of it all... these sessions aparently tackles the main issues... in all cases good luck, please keep us posted about life after marriage :)

Kinzi- sorry to disapoint you, it took place in the States...however you are absolutely right, it is a great  idea.. maybe i will apply it one of these days, make it cool enough that people would consider comming:)

Natasha- you guys are really compatible, but believe many many are simply not :) and il mseebeh that they dont know it, they think they are super perfect until reality hits

Linda- The carrots were a very well kept secret :) I hope i have moved on from that point on :) on a different note, i know that you have the strength of your grandmother and mother combined... that what makes you a super special person:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasha- I know you can&#8217;t prepare for everything in the future, actually you can try but you never know what happens.  However, it is really important to have a general agreement on things with your fiance, and this is the poin of it all&#8230; these sessions aparently tackles the main issues&#8230; in all cases good luck, please keep us posted about life after marriage <img src='http://madas.jordanplanet.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kinzi- sorry to disapoint you, it took place in the States&#8230;however you are absolutely right, it is a great  idea.. maybe i will apply it one of these days, make it cool enough that people would consider comming:)</p>
<p>Natasha- you guys are really compatible, but believe many many are simply not <img src='http://madas.jordanplanet.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and il mseebeh that they dont know it, they think they are super perfect until reality hits</p>
<p>Linda- The carrots were a very well kept secret <img src='http://madas.jordanplanet.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I hope i have moved on from that point on <img src='http://madas.jordanplanet.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  on a different note, i know that you have the strength of your grandmother and mother combined&#8230; that what makes you a super special person:)</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the good old Catholic church at its best again! (I&#039;m allowed to say this since I was born and raised Catholic!) I never knew they still try to &quot;prepare&quot; you for marriage nowadays. 
When both my grandmother and mother got married, they also had to attend a seminar like that. The major issue in their seminars was however that they promise in the name of God to raise their children Catholic because otherwise there would be no chance in hell that they could get married to a protestant (which both my father and grandfather are). Luckily, the women in my family tend to do whatever it takes to get what they want. 
I personally wouldn&#039;t have gone for a deal like that. But then again I&#039;m a weird bird anyway when it comes to marriage ... Did your friends also had to commit to anything like that? 
In general, I think that everyone who wants to commit should sit down and talk to their partner about all facts of life and not get married and then be surprised that it doesn&#039;t work out afterall. Marriage is not a magic patch that fixes all your problems. If two people are not meant for each other, a marriage might cover some s*** up for a  while, but sooner or later it&#039;s bound to go sour!  
As for the painting ... I&#039;m happy to hear that! Maybe some more beautiful carrots ... ?
- Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the good old Catholic church at its best again! (I&#8217;m allowed to say this since I was born and raised Catholic!) I never knew they still try to &#8220;prepare&#8221; you for marriage nowadays.<br />
When both my grandmother and mother got married, they also had to attend a seminar like that. The major issue in their seminars was however that they promise in the name of God to raise their children Catholic because otherwise there would be no chance in hell that they could get married to a protestant (which both my father and grandfather are). Luckily, the women in my family tend to do whatever it takes to get what they want.<br />
I personally wouldn&#8217;t have gone for a deal like that. But then again I&#8217;m a weird bird anyway when it comes to marriage &#8230; Did your friends also had to commit to anything like that?<br />
In general, I think that everyone who wants to commit should sit down and talk to their partner about all facts of life and not get married and then be surprised that it doesn&#8217;t work out afterall. Marriage is not a magic patch that fixes all your problems. If two people are not meant for each other, a marriage might cover some s*** up for a  while, but sooner or later it&#8217;s bound to go sour!<br />
As for the painting &#8230; I&#8217;m happy to hear that! Maybe some more beautiful carrots &#8230; ?<br />
- Linda</p>
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		<title>By: natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got the same counseling in Jordan since we got married in a Catholic church. Our priest was great. We met with him a number of times before the wedding..

Fortunately, we were ready as we had already discussed the major issues like finances, kids, etc  among ourselves before we started the counseling...I think all couples should get similar counseling before they tie the knot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got the same counseling in Jordan since we got married in a Catholic church. Our priest was great. We met with him a number of times before the wedding..</p>
<p>Fortunately, we were ready as we had already discussed the major issues like finances, kids, etc  among ourselves before we started the counseling&#8230;I think all couples should get similar counseling before they tie the knot</p>
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		<title>By: kinzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kinzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS GREAT!!! Did this counseling happen in Jordan? Oh, this is my prayer...premarital counseling available in Jordan! Oh my goodness, it is the key to a great marriage.

This is something the Catholic church excels in and I think everyone needs to listen to them on.

Madas, thanks for posting this...you are already being prepared to be a great wife! May God bless you with a man worthy of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS GREAT!!! Did this counseling happen in Jordan? Oh, this is my prayer&#8230;premarital counseling available in Jordan! Oh my goodness, it is the key to a great marriage.</p>
<p>This is something the Catholic church excels in and I think everyone needs to listen to them on.</p>
<p>Madas, thanks for posting this&#8230;you are already being prepared to be a great wife! May God bless you with a man worthy of you!</p>
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		<title>By: rasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>rasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well thax for ur post u gave me a couple of thigs to disscuse with my fiance ;-)
any ways dear i think u will never know every thing about marriege or about ur partner once u decided to say yes to someone and to share ur life with u have to understand him and accept the person he is, and u togther can control to have a happy marrieg, life is not something u can plan for, i mean yes couples may disscusse all type of things in thier future life but what about if they have an upnormal situation? that they never expected? 
i think we should concetrate on knowing our partners will and every thing else will go right at the end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well thax for ur post u gave me a couple of thigs to disscuse with my fiance <img src='http://madas.jordanplanet.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
any ways dear i think u will never know every thing about marriege or about ur partner once u decided to say yes to someone and to share ur life with u have to understand him and accept the person he is, and u togther can control to have a happy marrieg, life is not something u can plan for, i mean yes couples may disscusse all type of things in thier future life but what about if they have an upnormal situation? that they never expected?<br />
i think we should concetrate on knowing our partners will and every thing else will go right at the end</p>
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