Comments on: La revolution des maids!!! http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/ Casting the first stone Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:27:08 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: madas http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1066 madas Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:54:36 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1066 I wont argue! <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/madas" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/madas)</a> I wont argue!

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1065 Anonymous Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:07:58 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1065 shoot i'm hareega above <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> shoot i'm hareega above

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1064 Anonymous Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:07:29 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1064 It's another form of cheap labor and taking advantage of the unbelievable poverty that people in the Far East have. But it's not only us, Western countries are leaders in cheap labor! <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> It's another form of cheap labor and taking advantage of the unbelievable poverty that people in the Far East have. But it's not only us, Western countries are leaders in cheap labor!

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:41:30 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1063 Dalia, When I read your comment, (ash3ar badani!) mainly because I was extremely happy to hear from you! honestly.. I read your blog as well, adn i have thought a lot about you in the last years... I was very happy when Sanad was born, and i am always very happy to ehar your news :) As for the maids... staying home is not too bad, really i mean you go crazy for a while, but soon you figure out ways to cope with it. I totally agree with you, I just can't think of having my kids ( they dont exist yet) with maids... I feel they are too precious, and i alwyas think of motherhood as the most fascinating experience a woman can go through... So what i am trying to tell you is that i support you on your decision, i think it is the right one... and after all... worlk is not going anywhere, you can always find a job later... but these precious years with sanad will go and never come back... so enjoy them my friend... and be happy... and Dalia you are the better person... :) i will get your email from Natsaha... <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Dalia,

When I read your comment, (ash3ar badani!) mainly because I was extremely happy to hear from you! honestly.. I read your blog as well, adn i have thought a lot about you in the last years… I was very happy when Sanad was born, and i am always very happy to ehar your news :) As for the maids… staying home is not too bad, really i mean you go crazy for a while, but soon you figure out ways to cope with it. I totally agree with you, I just can't think of having my kids ( they dont exist yet) with maids… I feel they are too precious, and i alwyas think of motherhood as the most fascinating experience a woman can go through… So what i am trying to tell you is that i support you on your decision, i think it is the right one… and after all… worlk is not going anywhere, you can always find a job later… but these precious years with sanad will go and never come back… so enjoy them my friend… and be happy… and Dalia you are the better person… :) i will get your email from Natsaha…

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]]> By: alajrami http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 alajrami Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:33:45 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1062 Hi Mariam - long time no see.. I've been reading your blog for a while, I am a reader who never posts - sorry :) but i like it - keep up the good work.. While I am not against the concepts of maids - I do believe that it's true that most of them are not well-treated within the arab world.. Growing up, we always had a live-in housekeeper (never reffered to as shaghaleh - always by her first name). She always had her own room, with a TV, bed, closet and private bathroom.. She NEVER worked fridays or after 8 pm (unless we had company/parties, and then we all helped, she never did it alone).. And you have to remember that even though they are not very highly paid (by our standards), $ 100-200 a month does a LOT for a family in the Philipines, Sri Lanka or Indonesia.. However, saying all that.. I find it EXTREMELY difficult to take that step myself now that I have my own home and baby.. For many reasons, on being that I have a small apartment and she would not have her own private space (which we think wouldn't be fair to her).. But mainly, I couldn't imagine sharing my son upbringing with an unsupervised stranger.. Especially one who probably left her own children back home.. that would break my heart.. and I would feel bad whenever she saw me playing with him, or buying him something, or holding him.. Plus, I know i wouldn't be like this, but I have seen too many arab moms 'leaving' their children with the help - even if they are physically there.. and the children end up being raised by the maid.. I am trying my best to do what I can to avoid this for now.. I've been working since Sanad was 4 months old (he'll be a year this week). He has been in nursery since then (which has done wonders to his development) but we've also relied on his aunt or our friends in a pinch.. Recently - with my work getting more stressful and spilling over to my 'home' time, we have been contemplating hiring a full-time housekeeper to help out with Sanad and the house - and this would have been the 'cheaper' option (if you weigh in the cost of daycare, babysitting, part-time house cleaning, laundry etc).. However, the thought freaked both me and Duri out and we decided against it completely.. I decided to leave work and stay at home for now.. Sanad will still be going to nursery three times a week so I can have some 'me' time.. I'll probably go crazy from doing 'nothing' - even though a child is MORE than a full time job - but at least this way, I don't have to compromise my principles or peace of mind.. Keep blogging.. Sorry for the long reply.. Dalia (aka Um Sanad) <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/alajrami" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/alajrami)</a> Hi Mariam – long time no see..

I've been reading your blog for a while, I am a reader who never posts – sorry :) but i like it – keep up the good work..

While I am not against the concepts of maids – I do believe that it's true that most of them are not well-treated within the arab world.. Growing up, we always had a live-in housekeeper (never reffered to as shaghaleh – always by her first name). She always had her own room, with a TV, bed, closet and private bathroom.. She NEVER worked fridays or after 8 pm (unless we had company/parties, and then we all helped, she never did it alone)..

And you have to remember that even though they are not very highly paid (by our standards), $ 100-200 a month does a LOT for a family in the Philipines, Sri Lanka or Indonesia..

However, saying all that.. I find it EXTREMELY difficult to take that step myself now that I have my own home and baby.. For many reasons, on being that I have a small apartment and she would not have her own private space (which we think wouldn't be fair to her)..

But mainly, I couldn't imagine sharing my son upbringing with an unsupervised stranger.. Especially one who probably left her own children back home.. that would break my heart.. and I would feel bad whenever she saw me playing with him, or buying him something, or holding him..

Plus, I know i wouldn't be like this, but I have seen too many arab moms 'leaving' their children with the help – even if they are physically there.. and the children end up being raised by the maid..

I am trying my best to do what I can to avoid this for now.. I've been working since Sanad was 4 months old (he'll be a year this week). He has been in nursery since then (which has done wonders to his development) but we've also relied on his aunt or our friends in a pinch..

Recently – with my work getting more stressful and spilling over to my 'home' time, we have been contemplating hiring a full-time housekeeper to help out with Sanad and the house – and this would have been the 'cheaper' option (if you weigh in the cost of daycare, babysitting, part-time house cleaning, laundry etc)..

However, the thought freaked both me and Duri out and we decided against it completely.. I decided to leave work and stay at home for now.. Sanad will still be going to nursery three times a week so I can have some 'me' time..

I'll probably go crazy from doing 'nothing' – even though a child is MORE than a full time job – but at least this way, I don't have to compromise my principles or peace of mind..

Keep blogging..

Sorry for the long reply..

Dalia (aka Um Sanad)

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Anonymous Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:53:58 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1061 My parents found out alone later and told her we will give u cigaretts if you wanna smoke just dont steal them or go out and buy them without us knowing. I guess fair enough :) <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> My parents found out alone later and told her we will give u cigaretts if you wanna smoke just dont steal them or go out and buy them without us knowing. I guess fair enough :)

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]]> By: madas http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1060 madas Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:23:38 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1060 Mira, I dont think that the responses were harsh and even if they were it is ok... I mean by now, you realize that the world is not as nice as you imagine it is, and not all human bieng are good or nice, i would ignore them, because most probablt they are jealous.... as for the smoking maid...even though i am pro human rights and all that and i think it is good you did not talk to her in the spot or infron of the other maid. But thinks about it like this... if you work in a company and smoking is prohibited, you would get fired if caught smoking in secret, whether this company is in Jordan , USA or Hawaii! if i were you i would talk to the maid in private and tell her that if you caught her smoking again you will tell your parents. period! <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/madas" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/madas)</a> Mira, I dont think that the responses were harsh and even if they were it is ok… I mean by now, you realize that the world is not as nice as you imagine it is, and not all human bieng are good or nice, i would ignore them, because most probablt they are jealous…. as for the smoking maid…even though i am pro human rights and all that and i think it is good you did not talk to her in the spot or infron of the other maid. But thinks about it like this… if you work in a company and smoking is prohibited, you would get fired if caught smoking in secret, whether this company is in Jordan , USA or Hawaii! if i were you i would talk to the maid in private and tell her that if you caught her smoking again you will tell your parents. period!

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1059 Anonymous Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:02:24 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1059 http://mirashnoudi.blogspot.com/2005/07/maids-part-one.html Madas and check this i got really harsh responses in this one and what bothers me is that i really did nothing to be told this. Mira <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> http://mirashnoudi.blogspot.com/2005/07/maids-part-one.html
Madas and check this i got really harsh responses in this one and what bothers me is that i really did nothing to be told this.
Mira

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1058 Anonymous Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:51:09 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1058 Its just that humans are dependent by nature you don't make your own bread you go buy it. Other people provide you with services as telephone and electricity or fix your computer cause you cant do nor learn everything. So to me she doesn't differ from anyone of us we are all workers. She take care of my house while i take care of my business so what? Its just that some people think i am spoiled if i have a maid, I just dont see why? I don't have super powers to do everything and i am glad that some people can manage but i am sorry i can't. Got my point? <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Its just that humans are dependent by nature you don't make your own bread you go buy it. Other people provide you with services as telephone and electricity or fix your computer cause you cant do nor learn everything. So to me she doesn't differ from anyone of us we are all workers. She take care of my house while i take care of my business so what? Its just that some people think i am spoiled if i have a maid, I just dont see why? I don't have super powers to do everything and i am glad that some people can manage but i am sorry i can't. Got my point?

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 Anonymous Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:26:34 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/08/19/la-revolution-des-maids-2/#comment-1057 Mira, I don t think there is anything wrong with having a maid, especially if someone is used to having them. One of the advantages of living in the middle east is the ability to have maids, I have a problem with the way some people view maids... I am happy to hear that you treat them well... actually i am not surprised, i always get the feeling you are a very kind person :) <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Mira, I don t think there is anything wrong with having a maid, especially if someone is used to having them. One of the advantages of living in the middle east is the ability to have maids, I have a problem with the way some people view maids… I am happy to hear that you treat them well… actually i am not surprised, i always get the feeling you are a very kind person :)

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