Comments on: PWi7dat wi7dat and who knows what is wi7dat! http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/ Casting the first stone Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:04:52 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: madas http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-629 madas Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:24:01 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-629 I agree with you totally... but things are not as easy as you imagine they are. Actually that was the first question we asked, do these ladies work? and the answer that none of them work, mostly because it is not socially acceptable. Obviously that is not something any of us approves of, even these ladies themselves dont, but they are usually put under so much social pressure, and for some of them, no matter how much fighting they put, it ends up with dead end. After being there few times, i really would not judge their value system as i would have before... i simply accept this as another fact of life. <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/madas" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/madas)</a> I agree with you totally… but things are not as easy as you imagine they are. Actually that was the first question we asked, do these ladies work? and the answer that none of them work, mostly because it is not socially acceptable. Obviously that is not something any of us approves of, even these ladies themselves dont, but they are usually put under so much social pressure, and for some of them, no matter how much fighting they put, it ends up with dead end. After being there few times, i really would not judge their value system as i would have before… i simply accept this as another fact of life.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Anonymous Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:39:50 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-628 Doing a good deed to poor people is always accompanied with two feeling, the first is self content and the other is sadness and frustration for realizing that we aren't living in a beautiful world, but let me tell you about an other experience. My family is supporting for more than 20 years 50 widows with their children, in the first few years they used to give a monthly allowance of 10,000 SL (1 JD = 70 SL), but after a while they felt that they are raising these families to be lazy and totally dependent, so they reduced the allowance to 5,000 SL and give each family a sewing machine, after a while of observing they found that only 6 families were beginning to support themselves and the rest either sold the machine or left it as it is. The point of mentioning this story is that charity is not the solution. I think that the real help is providing jobs to them or to the their older children, if it is too hard to manage that the least to do is to help them stand on their own feet, and don't think that individual work is insignificant. Sinan MFLS <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Doing a good deed to poor people is always accompanied with two feeling, the first is self content and the other is sadness and frustration for realizing that we aren't living in a beautiful world, but let me tell you about an other experience. My family is supporting for more than 20 years 50 widows with their children, in the first few years they used to give a monthly allowance of 10,000 SL (1 JD = 70 SL), but after a while they felt that they are raising these families to be lazy and totally dependent, so they reduced the allowance to 5,000 SL and give each family a sewing machine, after a while of observing they found that only 6 families were beginning to support themselves and the rest either sold the machine or left it as it is. The point of mentioning this story is that charity is not the solution. I think that the real help is providing jobs to them or to the their older children, if it is too hard to manage that the least to do is to help them stand on their own feet, and don't think that individual work is insignificant.

Sinan MFLS

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-626 Anonymous Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:16:17 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-626 Thanks Mariam. I'll give her a hug when I see her :) And I'm sure in future your son/daughter will give you a hug from a friend who admires your heart and decides to follow your steps too inshallah :) As long as there are people who are willing not to ignore the other -almost forgotten- members of society, the world will always be a great place to live. Eman-Aqua <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Thanks Mariam. I'll give her a hug when I see her :)
And I'm sure in future your son/daughter will give you a hug from a friend who admires your heart and decides to follow your steps too inshallah :)

As long as there are people who are willing not to ignore the other -almost forgotten- members of society, the world will always be a great place to live.
Eman-Aqua

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Anonymous Wed, 09 Feb 2005 04:39:32 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-627 What you did is a great thing Mariam. Well we must at least know how much we need to thank GOD for his graces. Wi7dat is just a sample as you said :\ Nader <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> What you did is a great thing Mariam.
Well we must at least know how much we need to thank GOD for his graces.
Wi7dat is just a sample as you said :\

Nader

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]]> By: madas http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-625 madas Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:16:40 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-625 Roba, I usually love the snow... today and for the first time in my life i realize that snow means disaster! I mean today my thoughts are very concentrated on Wi7dat camp! and i know exactly what you are saying and it actually makes me feel worse :) Eman... You know what? I believe this experience changed my life! When i have kids... That is something i will expose them to! I want my kids to know what happenes around the world, i dont want them to grow up with the naivite that the world is the sheltered lives we lead. ... I want them to grow up with a mind set on helping... I think your mom is great for doing this with you guys. please give her a big hug for me :) <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/madas" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/madas)</a> Roba, I usually love the snow… today and for the first time in my life i realize that snow means disaster! I mean today my thoughts are very concentrated on Wi7dat camp! and i know exactly what you are saying and it actually makes me feel worse :)

Eman… You know what? I believe this experience changed my life! When i have kids… That is something i will expose them to! I want my kids to know what happenes around the world, i dont want them to grow up with the naivite that the world is the sheltered lives we lead. … I want them to grow up with a mind set on helping… I think your mom is great for doing this with you guys. please give her a big hug for me :)

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-624 Anonymous Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:37:07 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-624 Mariam, I know your shock, it isn't easy at all to see this misery and even worse think you'll be saving lives with things you have to give away and then realize you need 10 times the number to be able to help them only survive. Since we were little kids, in any country we were, mom used to take us with her and dad while they gave “zakat” or “sadaqa” to meet poor people who had nothing but the minimum living basics. She always insisted we see them to remember them and to know what it's like to be born poor so that we'd appreciate what we have and never forget the ones who weren't as lucky as we were to have a warm home to turn to in the freezing winter nights. I must say I'll be forever thankful to her and will do this with my children inshallah. It's great that you helped Mariam, and it's wonderful that you share your experience and emotions with us... Eman- Aqua <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Mariam, I know your shock, it isn't easy at all to see this misery and even worse think you'll be saving lives with things you have to give away and then realize you need 10 times the number to be able to help them only survive.
Since we were little kids, in any country we were, mom used to take us with her and dad while they gave “zakat” or “sadaqa” to meet poor people who had nothing but the minimum living basics. She always insisted we see them to remember them and to know what it's like to be born poor so that we'd appreciate what we have and never forget the ones who weren't as lucky as we were to have a warm home to turn to in the freezing winter nights.
I must say I'll be forever thankful to her and will do this with my children inshallah.

It's great that you helped Mariam, and it's wonderful that you share your experience and emotions with us…

Eman- Aqua

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]]> By: Anonymous http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/comment-page-1/#comment-623 Anonymous Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:30:26 +0000 http://madas.jordanplanet.org/2005/02/08/wi7dat-wi7dat-and-who-knows-what-is-wi7dat/#comment-623 Yeah :\ It's really depressing, especially when you're sitting in a million layers of thick wool in your concrete-walled, extra-heated house and you're still cold. Allah y3eenhom. I hope your efforts and other people's efforts will help them, even if its just a little bit. -Roba <a href="http://livejournal.com/users/" rel="nofollow">(http://livejournal.com/users/)</a> Yeah :\ It's really depressing, especially when you're sitting in a million layers of thick wool in your concrete-walled, extra-heated house and you're still cold. Allah y3eenhom.
I hope your efforts and other people's efforts will help them, even if its just a little bit.
-Roba

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